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Post by hammerdown on Sept 19, 2006 8:29:30 GMT -5
Hello Members I recently picked up this S&W Model 647 revolver. I have heard in the past that the reason S&W discontinued this model was because of accuracy issues. I tried five different brands of ammo in this, and found it liked the CCI Brand Hollow points printing a group smaller than a dime at the 17 Yard line. This was the first time I had fired it, and had not mounted the scope shown on it. I have poor eye sight and felt this was tight groups from a revolver that got shunned for Poor accuracy. I feel most that bought them back in 2003 time span either did not find ammo the revolver would group tight with, or complained about the higher price of the 17 HMR ammo, and this may be why the revolver took a bad rap. What is your take on this revolver? Regards, Hammerdown
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Post by hammerdown on Sept 19, 2006 19:48:31 GMT -5
Hello I Took the 17 HMR S&W to the range today. I switched grips and sighted in the Leupold scope. It now shoots like the tack driver it was meant to be, and surprised me with the results. Regards, Hammerdown.
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Post by Brad Clodfelter on Sept 19, 2006 20:02:56 GMT -5
That is awesome! Gun and target are both keepers. That is super shooting at 50yds. I'm guessing that is 3 shots. Can you do that again? If so, you are truely a super pistol shooter regardless if off of a rest.
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Post by Griffer on Sept 20, 2006 0:32:15 GMT -5
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Post by hammerdown on Sept 20, 2006 8:48:30 GMT -5
Hello Brad & Chris Thanks for the Kind words. I don't know if I could repeat this group again, and yes it was a Three shot group. I have sugar Diabetes, and recently had to have glasses with Bi-Focal added, so this prompted the addition of a Leupold 4 X scope I had on hand, but I can tell you that this is Not enough glass for what this caliber is capable of. One of the great hurdles in life is failing eye sight, Which none of us likes to elaborate on and it is frustrating at times when your shooting, and the sight plane gets all fuzzy. This revolver had a nasty looking dull finish of stainless. The inside of the trigger guard was a very Dull gray finish and appeared as it had not been touched after being drop forged. I own several Nickel finished revolver's so the factory finish was not going to cut it, for me. I disassembled the complete revolver to the bare frame. I then polished the rebound slide, and where it contacts the frame internally, and spent a couple of hours in my chair while watching Television polishing the rest of the revolver with Mother's Mag wheel polish. This revolver can group much better than I am able to hold like most hand gun shooters claim. I feel this caliber and revolver got poor reviews as ones that owned them did not take the time to find what the gun likes as far as tight groups, and were quick to judge the caliber and revolver as Inaccurate, rather than their inability to find what worked best. I further feel most that purchased them, may have been previous .22 Rimefire blasters and soon learned this caliber costs a lot more to simply blast away with, compared to the Bulk Brick Packs of .22 rimefire bought at Wal-Mart. ;D I do not mind spending $10.00 a box for ammo when you get positive results on the target. I am not saying my K-22s are not capable of firing small groups like this, but feel the 17 HMR will go a lot further at a flatter trajectory, and present much more terminal catastrophic results when hitting small game. Looking back I remember when I was a teenager, and brought home a rifle in 22-250 Caliber. My Father was a true Blue .222 lover, and could not understand why I did not purchase a rifle in the .222 caliber like his. We were shooting woodchucks one afternoon, and my Brother in law pulled up next to us on a deserted old dirt country road. On the top edge of this field there were three crows standing in the fresh mowed alfalfa lot. I would say the distance was about Three hundred yard's, guessing as they did not have range finders then, but told my Father to take out one of the crows with his .222. He fired twice, and we could see his slug hitting way short of the crows mark. My brother in Law also joined in with his .222 inserting a Little Kentucky windage and suffered the same results. Amazingly the Crows seemed unaffected and continued to feast on all the Bugs in that fresh mowed hay, and shortly this would be a mistake for one of them. ;D I then took my 22-250 and dropped the Middle crow as we watched the other two fly off, I said, "That is why I bought a 22-250 Gentlemen, any More Questions" ???Shortly after my Father bought one just like mine, and his old Favorite .222 Sako Rifle laid way back in the gun cabinet collecting dust, from then on. Who said you cant teach and old dog new tricks? ;D The .222 was a good round in it's day, but the results from the much faster and flatter shooting .22-250 made believers out of the .222 caliber lovers. ;)Regards, Hammerdown
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Post by Brad Clodfelter on Sept 20, 2006 20:31:16 GMT -5
hammerdown,
Thanks for the reply. I am truely impressed that you shot that 3 shot group with only a 4 power scope at 50yds. That is simply astonishing shooting. It takes a lot to impress me. You have done it. I know how hard it would be to do it.
I can also tell that you have what I really like in a person after reading your deal about the crows. And that is character. One of the most important elements that a person can have next to plenty of heart. I'm sure you have that as well.
Take care.
Brad
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Post by hammerdown on Sept 20, 2006 23:08:16 GMT -5
Hello Brad Thanks, I had a 31 acre farm back in 1986. I offered for my Father to come deer hunt with me. He agreed to come, and at the last minute backed out on me, as he worked at Cherry Point Naval base, and they had a red alert on base, so he had to stay. I had watched this very Large fine buck all summer, and planned on the Old Man dropping him, as he had never got a rack worth mounting in all his years of hunting white tails. He had the same pattern daily, and I went in for him on opening day. I shot him at 7:15 that morning with my S&W model 57 .41 Magnum at 50 Yards, rested on a Maple tree branch. It was a lung shot, and he ran about 75 yards before piling up. Just before I left the spot I was standing in, I saw a 6 point buck standing to my left about 50 Yards as well. After I had shot the 7 Pointer I assumed he had ran. I was wrong he was still there, so I slowly turned and shot him straight through the heart. My hunting buddy who was off to my left heard the shots and came over to where I was. he gutted the 6 point while I gutted and dragged the bigger 7 Point back to the Truck. I had the 7 Pointer mounted, and gave it to my Father to remind him what he had missed that day. He has not missed another hunt since, as I had a plaque made on it that reads "To the Victor Goes the Spoils" with the weight and date inscribed. This Buck weighed 172 Gutted, and is the Biggest deer I have ever shot. The back tines were 11 Inches long, and they were less than an inch apart from touching in the front. He was so long I had to drop the tail gate on my truck for his head to rest on. Yup, The Old Man, regreted missing that hunt. ;)Regards, Hammerdown
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Post by Brad Clodfelter on Sept 20, 2006 23:23:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the pictures. 2 deer with a handgun. That's a nice buck. Brad
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Post by hammerdown on Sept 21, 2006 5:20:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the pictures. 2 deer with a handgun. That's a nice buck. Brad Hello Brad The Deer shown, was what I believe to be a Son of one we called Big Foot. That buck was one of the slickest Deer I have had the Opportunity to stalk. Three years in a row this Giant deer eluded me, and all other's that tried him. A couple of seasons prior to me harvesting the Large 7 Point shown, I had a chance to get a shot at his Father Big Foot. He had been fired at on the Other side hill and was coming my way as the previous shot had not touched him, I did not have time to get him in position for the perfect shot so took a side angle shot. I clipped a lung, and he made a turn back. He was dropping and getting back up as I slowly attempted to walk him to his death bed. ;D I should have waited and sat there to have a smoke rather than push him, but the sheer size of this animal had me ready to explode with excitement, much like your first Buck when you are a kid just starting out . I could actually see myself in the Boon & Crockett books with this 12 Point Monster. I kept slowly walking him down the same hill he came from, and then the worse scenario happened. I heard a gun shot. It was my Neighbor, and Big Foot had made the property line between us right into his sights. I approached as he was getting undressed to gut this monster. He noticed it had been shot, and was super excited. He asked what I thought of his deer, and I replied it should not have come this far John. He replied that shot was you a few minutes ago wasn't it? I felt sick so shook my head indicating Yes, and like a gentleman he said well, I did not have the first shot neighbor, so this Buck is Yours for the taking. As much as I wanted him, I was Taught better hunting rules by my Father at a young age. I replied to him, "Killing Shot Takes Home the Harvest" shook his hand and walked away very disappointed. The following day, my Neighbor John and his prize Buck were on the front page of the Times Union a local news paper. He made the Boon & Crockett book, and it weighed in at 237 on the Hoof. It was said that it was the second Biggest buck recorded in Deer hunting history for that area and it was aged at 5 Years old. The Buck shown I figure is Big Foot's Son I Believe, as he was less than 2 Years old, and all ready weighed an amazing 172 Gutted. I had him aged by the Local conservation Cop, to confirm his age. When I shot him, I sat patiently and watched him drop to his death. I Then had a smoke this time and took my time walking up to him as to not have a repeat performance of the day I lost the harvest of the Biggest White Tail I had ever seen, and probably will ever see again. Regards, Hammerdown
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Post by Brad Clodfelter on Sept 21, 2006 20:20:50 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that.
To see the buck of a lifetime is a great sight.
To lose the buck of a lifetime would be one bitter pill I care not to swallow.
Brad
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