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[hammerdown]

Hello Big G
Thanks for the kind words. I picked up this interesting PreWar Iver Johnson Cycle & Gun works Super sealed Eight today, in .22 caliber. It was made one year previously before S&W released the K-22 Outdoorsman in 1930. They use the name super sealed meaning it had a recessed cylinder to handle the new Winchester High speed ammo back then. It has adjustable trigger guard, adjustable trigger stop, adjustable finger rest, and sights. It even has an adjustable main spring with 5 settings for pressure on the grip frame, as it is a coil spring action. This revolver was the top of the Line Iver Johnson, used at shooting events before World War II. I have not seen a PreWar in this condition before as well. It appears very tight and seldom shot, as most top breaks are loose and would not stand broke open like shown.Regards, Hammerdown

[Dwight Pilkilton]

Talk about cool factor through the roof

[Big G]

Very nice indeed!!!!!!!

[hammerdown]

Hello Fellas
Thanks for the kind words. If old revolver's could talk huh ? I assume these revolver's were reasonable when new, but am not sure of the price for one in 1930? Comparing it with my S&Ws it is a far cry quality wise, but you have to give Iver Johnson credit for having some cutting edge ideas back then. I read an article when Winchester came out with the new high speed ammo in .22 caliber back in 1930, the problem was revolver's and single shot hand guns could not handle the pressure. The velocity was about 1400 F.P.S. {Not Much Faster Today}and what was happening was, the cases were exploding close to the rim, and there were cases of shooters getting hurt from the shrapnel. The casings were copper back then as well. D.B. Wesson designed the first K-22 to have a recessed cylinder to encompass the head to prevent this, and it also held the shell tightly in the cylinder to prevent it from coming back into the recoil shield. It went on to say that many firearms manufactures followed suite with this recessed cylinder idea, making one think He was the the one who came up with it originally, but also added he did not get a Patent on this design, and now I see others had the same gut feeling about shooter safety in this time span, as they call this model the "Super Sealed" meaning the case head is completely sealed when the revolver is closed up for firing. The Outdoorsman of which D.B. Wesson first used this design was released in 1931, and oddly enough this Iver Johnson was made in 1930, so that tells me D.B. Wesson wasn't the only one in the New England area to incorporate this cutting edge design, the Boys at Iver Johnson cycle work's had a few tricks up their sleeve as well.I believe Iver Johnson had some neat ideas back then but did not have the machine capabilities or man Power to compete with the Likes of S&W. In fact S&W believed in this idea so much that in 1935 they used the same design in all their .357 Magnum cylinder's and followed suit in all Magnum caliber hand guns until 1982 when they changed this to a flush fitting cylinder as a cost saving measure design change. Regards, Hammerdown

[grandparem]

I think Iver Johnson made some pretty good guns at times. My dad had a .410 Champion that I thought had pretty good quality... I probably killed more pheasants with that gun than any other.... a lot of them were off a John Deere tractor with a mounted corn picker . I don't know where Dad's gun went (I think a nephew has it), but I bought another Champion a couple of years ago.... haven't shot it yet.

[hammerdown]

grandparem said:

I think Iver Johnson made some pretty good guns at times..

Hello
I took this one all apart this evening for a good cleaning and oiling. I was very surprised to see this revolver had not been fired much at all. One thing no one can hide in any revolver is flame travel across the top strap. It is impossible, as the firing of the revolver makes a perfect line and eventually a shallow cut in the top strap. Here is a picture of the Iver Johnson top strap, and I see no line nor cutting present, just a fine line where the factory soldered the barrel to the top barrel rib. The Bore picture speaks volumes of how little this revolver had been fired as well, The land's are deep, clean and have a mirror finish. The cylinder face shows no evidence of scuffing, or lead build up as shown. I also noticed it has an adjustable main coil spring in the frame under the grips. I have been told this was done because as usage increased spring pressure decreased, and this was a way to over come a weak spring that would represent light primer strikes. This one is in the Lowest position indicating it has not gotten weak from use, and it leaves ample primer strikes in the .22 cartridges. I am off today to fire this revolver, and see how it groups. This gun was from a Pawn shop, so here is my take on it. I figure it laid quiet in a dresser drawer for many years with no use, then got Pawned off from a younger member of the family when times got tough. I shure wish Old revolver's could Talk. Regards, Hammerdown

[hammerdown]

Hello
I Picked up this Older High Standard in .22 Long rifle last weekend. It rides flat in my front jeans Pocket. Regards, Hammerdown

[Scotty]

hey hammerdown, you got some awful nice handguns there

would you mind postin those kinds of pictures over on the new place too? if you havent already, that is

almost everybody who was here , has moved to www. rimfireshooting.com.

there's a lot of folks there who'd enjoy seeing your handguns too, so please dont forget to post there too

see you later

scotty

[goodwrench00]

Here's mine



And the results of 5@50

[hammerdown]

Howdy
My K-22 Obsession continues. I wanted to have a K-22 that was early Post War with the same level of finish as my Pre-War K-22. Sadly there was such a demand for Post War S&W revolver's from a gun Hungry Consumer buying public, S&W decided to change their Bluing to a now Soft Matte Bluing which appears dull to me. I Located a Nice tight K-22 Post war Five screw Model from 1948 that had a terrible finish but appeared seldom shot, as it Locked up like a vault. I decided to send this One off to Ford's for their Master bluing finish. I spent an Hour on the Phone with Ford's explaining I wanted this Like my Pre-War revolver finish, But I wanted the finished Product to appear like it came from the factory that way. Ford's re-struck the original Trade Mark stamp in the side Plate as it would have Looked weak due to rust and corrosion around it that had to be Polished out. They also Mounted and set an original factory McGivern Gold Bead Front sight I Picked up as New Old Stock as these were very Popular in this time frame but my original front sight was the short Patridge. Below is the Before and after results of my 1948 K-22 refinished by Ford's refinishing, along with a Picture beside my Pre-War K-22 to show how they compare and a Target I shot with it from the 20 Yard line after it was sighted in with It's new sight blade. Regards, Hammerdown


"Before Refinishing at Ford's In Florida"









"After Refinishing at Ford's of Florida"

[Scotty]

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